Sharpness Records    Рекорды Заточки   On this page I list names of the ones who can sharpen knife to be able whitteling hair. If you can - please send me your name or nick - I'll be glad to list you here. It will be better if you send me some photo of whittled hair as a prove, but it is not nessesary at all. На этой страничке я выкладываю имена тех кто умеет точить ножи до состояния строгания волоса. Если вы умеете - напишите мне e-mail со своими именем или псевдонимом я с радостью помещу вас на эту страничу. Желательно если вы пришлете фотографию этого волоса со стружкой, но не обязательно. I learned how to do this just recently and very excited about this. I am very happy to see other people doing same, one or other way. I am doing this with Green Rouge. But different people were able to do this with sharpmaker rods etc... Please provide some information on how you are doing this too. Я сам совсем недавно научился точить ножи до такого состояния и весьма тому рад. То что другие то же могут добиться аналогичных результатов тем или иным способом меня то же весьма радует. Я добиваюсь этого с помощью пасты ГОИ (Green Rouge), однако слышал что другие способны добиться того же с помощью шарпмэйкера на весу и пр... Пожалуйста пишите еще и каким образом вы добиваетесь такой высокой заточки. Nozh2002

Theonew
BladeForums

Bark River Aurora. I have very thin hair too.

My technique really varies but what I enjoy most is being able to hold the sharpener in one hand and the knife in the other. For the Aurora which NIB was fairly sharp I just used a Fine DMT Mini-sharp, then an Extra Fine, and finished with a Spyderco Ultra Fine ceramic rod.

Я разные методы использую, но больше всего мне нравится держать камень в одной руке и нож в другой. Для Авроры Bark River заводская заточка которой весьма неплохая я использовал Fine DMT Mini-sharp, потом Extra Fine и закончил с керамическим стержнем Спайдерко UltraFine.

FireWire2008
www.guns.ru

Дней пять назад получил Ultrafine rods для Триангла. До этого иногда удавалось получить заточку, достаточную для строгания волоса и на обычных белых камнях от него (думаю, скорее случайно). Но с ультрафайном результат стабилен - за эти дни заточил четыре ножа : Microtech Manus (D2), Spyderco Dragonfly (VG10), Kershaw Steven Seagal (AUS 8) и MOD Caracara (S30V) - с последним пришлось повозиться несколько дольше - клинок изогнут в форме когтя, изгиб на гранях брусков не удается точить, только на углах. Точу в подставке, на 30 градусов. В пазы вместе с брусками вставляю клочки бумажного полотенца - из-за уплотнения камни тогда не болтаются, сидят плотно. Ну и под конец на ультрафайне едва касаюсь  РК плоскости бруска, получается, нож давит на брусок с весом меньше собственного (немного коряво сформулировал, но думаю, понятно:)) Времени вся процедура заточки занимает немного, где-то процентов на 30-40 больше, чем если бы точил стандартно coarse\fine.

Проблема у меня с фотографированием заструганных волос - моя мыльница как-то не очень фотографирует в режиме макросъемки (а может, у меня руки трясутся - штатива-то нет). Сфотографироал, как получилось, думаю, если увеличить, можно разглядеть... Волосы у меня довольно тонкие и не длиннные, один раз получилось даже почти целиком вдоль один разрезать, но это довольно сложно - чуть дрогнет рука - волос распадается.

I was able to do hair whitteling before more or less accidentely even with Fine Sharpmaker rods, but only after I got Ultrafine five days ago my results became stable - I have now Microtech Manus (D2), Spyderco Dragonfly (VG10), Kershaw Steven Seagal (AUS 8) и MOD Caracara (S30V). I fix rods in the holes with a bit of paper toel so they stay solid there and for UltraFine do the slightest possible touches. It take not to much time - about 30%-40% more then regular sharening.

Hardheart
BladeForums

I use a KnivesPlus strop block, and the leather is glued. The trick for me is pretty simple, I hold the strop in my hand as, so I can keep the pressure very light and let the surface move as I pull the blade along it. I wouldn't expect to get the same from laying it down and making it completely rigid.

Я использую брусок для доводки из KnivesPlus где кожа приклеена. Секрет прост - я держу брусок в руке на весу, из-за этого давление получается очень слабое. Я не думаю что такое возможно на зафиксированный бруске.

16 May 2008

Spyderco Caly Jr., ZDP-189

sharpened on a King combo stone, 1200/8000

Fluffster
BladeForums

I use a 1000/3000 suehiro waterstone. When the knife doesn't shave arm hair any more, I take 2 minutes on the 1000 side, turn stone around and perhaps 1 minute there. Then 40 or so strokes per side on newsprint with a bit of CrO (Nozh2002 - Green Rouge) laid flat on the table.

Я использую водяные камни - 1000/3000 Suehiro. Когда нож перестает брить предплечье, я точу минуты две на 1000, потом около минуты на другой стороне (3000). Потом 40 раз или около того для каждой стороны на газете ровно лежащей на столе чуть заправленной CrO (оксид хрома, он же Green Rouge, он же паста ГОИ).

Kershaw
kneedeep photo BladeForums

Vivi
BladeForums

It was done with my EDC Spyderco UK Pen Knife in S30V.  Microbevel applied with DMT fine stone then stropped on loaded leather, all done freehand.

Это мой EDC - Spyderco UK перочинный нож с CPM S30V. Микробевел сформирован DMT Fine и подправлен на заряженной коже - все сделано вручную.

Hunter
www.knifeclub.com.ua & www.guns.ru

Результат использования комплекта DMT Deluxe Aligner Kit  + кожа с пастой ГОИ. Волос из собственной шевелюры (увеличено). 

Result of DMT Deluxe Aligner Kit + leather loaded with Green Rouge.

Kneecutter
BladeForums

I whittled these hairs a little with my Boker Leo II damascus knife. It has never been stropped so I guess I got lucky touching it up recently with the Sharpmaker.

Волос поструган Boker Leo II damascus knife. Никогда не правил его, так что похоже мне повезло с Sharpmaker-ом.

db
BladeForums

I have and am able to sharpen an edge so it can split a hair. In fact the first time I did it was about 10 years ago and truthfully I am a much better sharpener now than I was back then. 

Kaizen1
BladeForums

Unfortunately, I don't have the ability to take and post pictures.

I've been able to split hair with:

Spyderco Endura Wave (VG-10)
Benchmade 710 (D2)
Spyderco Caly 3 (ZDP-189)
Emerson CQC-14 (154cm)
Spyderco Paramilitary (S30V)
Spyderco Pacific Salt (H1)

I sharpen freehand with Spyderco Sharpmaker triangle sticks. All of the above knives were able to split hair at the level of the Fine rod, though I finished the ZDP with the Ultrafine rod. I currently strop on newspaper on glass, I haven't made the time to get a leather strop and try the green stuff.

BJE
BladeForums

No pics here, I can't find my camera and I am a terrible photographer anyway. I have whittled hair before and it is almost scary. For day to day sharpening though, the Ultra Fine stones on my sharpmaker are good enough for me. I don't like stropping, it isn't as easy as it looks, or should I say it is just too easy to round the edge.

maximus otter
BladeForums

Here's another sharpness test. The paper is plain A4 copy paper rolled into a 1" cylinder and loosely taped with Sellotape:

Cutting is not difficult; I have never managed to leave the bottom half standing, though!

Blades were sharpened with Edge Pro Apex.

IIRC the Sebenza and the Manix were at 21°, the Trailmaster at 24°

Chinese man
BladeForums

I can whittle hair with my BM 558(S30V), BM14210 (154 CM), Spyderco Caly3(VG-10) and D4 Wave (VG-10). I wish my cammera had a macro function....

My process is Ultra Fine on SM 30/40 and finish off on a strop either loaded with CrO or 1 micron Diamond Spray.

gunmike1
BladeForums

I will try to sharpen this week polish some of my knives this week and get my camera back from my parents to take pictures, though thus far getting decent macro shots has been a challenge for me. I have been able to get hair whittling edges from most any knife I have sharpened, though my thinner, crisper steeled knives like my Caly Jr. ZDP really shine at this. My CPM D2 Military, my CPM M4 Krein Ultimate Caper, and my Mule Team knife take really nice edges as well. In fact, I think the Mule Team, very closely followed by the Ultimate Caper are probably the knives that I can get the sharpest. Actually, after a quick check, even after a bit of light EDC use since it's last sharpening my Caly Jr. can still whittle one of my head hairs. I usually whittle my wife's hair from her brush, as it is thinner than mine and more of a challenge.

18 May 2008

Here is what my CPM D2 Military did after a pretty quick 15 per side microbevel on a 1000 grit Shapton Glasstone. I verified there was no burr via a lighted microscope (the handy $10 Radioshack one).

A couple from my CPM M4 Krein Ultimate Caper. It was sharpened to .05 microns on lapping film, and only lightly used since then. It peels off tiny curls onto the blade, so it is hard to capture just how thin the curls of hair it whittles off are. I tried to capture that but it doesn't seem to show up very well. The first picture was just me taking a thicker curl that I made sure didn't come off of the hair, and it shows up pretty well. If you look really close at the center of the blade in the second pic you can see a sliver of hair on the blade, but there were a few more slivers on the blade that it whittled off that you can't really see. I really need better lighting and a better camera.

David Schott
BladeForums - Plaistow, NH.
http://www.schottknives.com

The cut: Single piece of printer paper rolled into a 2" diameter tube. Roll placed freestanding (no tape holding it from falling over) on a countertop and severed, leaving the bottom of the paper tube standing.

The knife: A 15" competition cutter made of 1/4" O1 toolsteel.

Watch as the bottom half of the tube just slightly skitters to the right about 2 inches. This is a bitch of a cut to pull off since your arm swinging moves enough air to knock the tube over by itself, nevermind cutting the tube.

The knife would easilly whittle hair when this vid was taken, but I think this kind of cut has a lot more to do with technique and edge geometry, while hair whittling is purely a function of the sharpness at the apex of the cutting edge.

Hair whittling is also technique. If a knife is sharp enough, whitting hair is actually very difficult since the blade will pop through the hair with so little effort and the hair is so thin....I think it depends on the hair alot...

I'd say the cut is 90% technique, but the other 10% requires an absurdly sharp edge.

Most knives wont even cut the tube, some knives will cut the tube roughly, some will cut it cleanly and send both halves flying.....not many will leave the bottom on the table or leave it standing.

redhawk44p
BladeForums

Hamon
BladeForums

I don`t have photos, but I`ve managed to whittle hairs with the following:

Chris Reeve Classic Sebenza: S30V
Spyderco Mini Persian: VG10
Byrd Robin FRN: 8CR13MoV
Benchmade 705 LE: D2
Spyderco Manix: S30V
Kershaw Blur: SG2

Normally I rebevel to somewhere around 25 degrees with a guided system (Gatco, Edgepro), then put on a microbevel at either 30 or 40 degrees with the Sharpmaker. I then strop, first with jeweler`s rouge, then with plain leather.

I`ve found a 40 degree microbevel works just fine for whittling hairs, and lasts a little longer than a thinner bevel.

ziptrickhead
BladeForums

My first try at getting a blade hair whittling sharp. My hair is short and thin so it was annoying to hold onto it. I also didn't to cut too much into it because before i ended up cutting right through it.

Started with a DMT coarse, then spyderco medium, spyderco fine, and some white stropping stick on some cardboard. Knife is an Opinel #6

FoxholeAtheist
BladeForums

Spyderco Kopa, reprofiled down to slightly sub-30° with the Edge Pro, then microbevelled with the Sharpmaker up to UF. Had very little luck with hair from my scalp, but my beard is a bit coarser...

thesurefire
BladeForums

I've gotten much better results with S30V and VG10 but I wanted to do a steel no one else in the thread did, so I started on a scrapyard. Results are not nearly as good as other knifes, but here they are:

kelbro
BladeForums

Done with my Chive

jugg2
BladeForums

I'm in! Spyderco CMP-D2 Military, it slpits it into thirds...

the possum
BladeForums

I have been getting knives to hair whittling sharpness and beyond since I was 12 years old. But alas, I've never taken a picture, and don't have access to a digital camera now.

bennyG19
BladeForums

i got both my Mora's to whittle hair after I tried the magazine cover strop. My Opinel is soooo close but i can't get it to do it.
this is fun. my wife thinks i'm crazy.

Alex_Green
www.guns.ru

Сам бы ни в жизнь не собрался написать письмо про банальный Камилус, Бенч или МТ, которые обычно точу примерно до той же степени.  А тут пришла некая эпатажная (уж простите ) мысль заточить абсолютно непрестижную "Белочку", которую достал после долгого забвения из инструментального ящика на даче и в последий раз раскраивал ей линолиум,  абсолютно неприспособленных (с современной точки зрения) средствами заточки. Что и было сделано менее чем за 30 мин.

Qwest

www.guns.ru

Наилучших результатов мне удалось  добиться на Paramilitary от Spyderco, используя  вначале брусок Fine затем Ultra Fine от Lansky.  Никаких специальных приемов не использовалось, действовал по инструкции, прилагаемой к набору для заточки от этой фирмы. Порошковая сталь точится весьма сложно, для того, чтобы нож легко распускал волос вдоль, требуется потратить несколько часов на доводку уже нового ножа. Впрочем, если фабричная заточка в хорошем состоянии(мне попалась с заусенцем, который пришлось снимать), возможно, времени потребуется меньше. В принципе, заточить до застругивания волос удавалось и ножи из стали AUS8. К сожалению такая острота на этой стали не держится. Заточка садится буквально после отрезания пары ломтиков апельсина на весу.

Knife Geek
BladeForums

I saw all these cool high end knives and some moras done but I noticed there wasn't a single case or anything like it. so here it is.

I use a DMT DiaSharp coarse to apply a slightly sub 30 degree angle. Then I bring it to a solid 30 using the brown spyderco SM rods. then about 30-40 passes per side with the fines. From there its a piece of thin single ply cardboard with CrO .5 micron compound on it.