RE: [MIP-QOS] Re: MIP-QOS -- Scope of discussions

["ext Fred Baker" <fred@cisco.com>]

At 05:16 PM 4/17/2001 -0700, ext James Kempf wrote:
>the radio access network is always oversubscribed because the air is 
>always in scarce supply. Thus there is a part of the network that has 
>Intsrv like requirements but these are not end to end. They are only in 
>the access network.

I understand that that is what you would like; I'd love to have that too. 
Can you tell me how to know how much traffic there is in a voice call end 
to end (which is the subject of intserv) if you don't have end to end 
signalling to tell both access networks what they are receiving and 
sending? If you can't tell me that, per Parekh and Gallagher, I can't tell 
you how do get a predictable network to support the voice.